Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:21:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> |Subject: artist for hire To: <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Hi.

I am looking for an artist to draw/paint some photos that I have taken. They are family photos taken over the past couple of years that I think would make great paintings or drawn sketches. I really like the work I've seen of yours. If you would be interested in doing this kind of work for me, please contact me soon.

Thanks,
Mike Ockisard (THAT'S ME, SHIZZY)

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 18:53:39 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> | To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike

Robert here - I am always looking for more work to do - gotta to pay those bill - Did you read about my rates when you were on my website - My home phone # is xxx-xxx-xxxx I work a full time job during the day and I am usualy home after 8 pm - Please don't call after 11pm - You can leave a message between 9 am and 11 pm and I will get back to you

Robert

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> | Subject: Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Hi Robert.

I would like to speak to you over the phone but I am physically unable. I was injured while rollerblading a couple of days ago. I hit a tree branch and landed face first into the pavement. The swelling is incredible. I look and sound like a monster. This happened in the Bahamas and I also got a serious sunburn. With my swollen face and burned skin the guys at work are calling me "the elephant tan". If we could have our initial dialogue via e-mail that would be great. Any price that you feel fits the job I will be willing to pay. This is going to be an anniversary present for my wife and money is no object. I hope that communicating e-mail won't be a problem. Please contact me soon if you are still interested.

Thanks,

Mike

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:34:48 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> | To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike - Robert here - It's now 12:19 in the morning so I'm going to make this short - No problem with the e-mails - hope there wasn't any permanent damage - let me know the details about the picture - how many people are in it - do you want a painting or a B&W drawing - how big you want it - no smaller than 16 x 20 - etc,etc - Time for bed now so bye -contact me later to day

Robert

Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> |Subject: Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Hi Robert.

There are two pictures that I would like to have you work with. After giving it some thought I have decided I would like them both to be black and white drawings. Black and white can be so powerful. Color often spoils that timeless appeal. One picture has my wife, myself, and two friends in the photo. The other is simply my wife and myself with our dog. I am not sure how big I want these drawings. I want them to be big enough to have framed and put on a wall. 36 x 28? The doctor and the dentist I am seeing promise me there won't be any permanent damage. They have said it will be a week and a half before I should try to speak again. How long does it take you to do a drawing? I am really excited about this. My wife is going to love it.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Mike

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike - Robert here - When do you need it done by, ( I don't do framing or mat cutting )
I work a full time job so I would like at least a month to do you a great job
I perferd to work in black And white - I think I do my best work in black and white
The price per picture is determined by the number of person in the picture

The price for the drawing of your wife, yourself, and two friends will be - $550.00
The price for the second drawing of your wife and yourself with your dog will be $425.00
Priced for 24 x 36The price for the drawing of your wife, yourself, and two friends will be - $650.00
The price for the second drawing of your wife and yourself with your dog will be $525.00
Any larger and the price will have to be adjusted

If you wish to proceed with the drawing send me 1/2 down and when I am finish, send the other 1/2 . - Send the photos and your address and phone# and best time to call you to:
Robert xxxx
xxxx Rumple Avenue
Addison, IL 60101

The price above dosen't include shipping

Glad to hear there will be no permanent damage.

Robert

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Hi Robert.

There is a photo of my wife and I together that I like more than the others. I decided that it would be most appropriate for our anniversary. I would like this drawing to be sized 24x36. If it turns out well I will surely do more business with you in the future. Money is not a problem. I am fortunate enough to part own a small company that manufactures bed sheets. The most comfortable in the world! Concerning payment, do you accept major credit cards? Our anniversary is in January, so we have plenty of time. Thank you again for having the patience to talk with me via e-mail. I realize it is an inconvenience.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks,

Mike

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:02:38 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelock1@yahoo.com

Hi Mike - Robert here - I don't take credit cards - I'm not set up for credit cards - I do take checks, money orders and cash - don't send cash in the mail - Even though your anniversary is in January I would like to do this right a way because I get busy after september with drawing for people for christmass

Robert

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Hi Robert.

Not a problem. I will send you a check along with the picture ASAP. I am so glad I found you. My wife is going to flip when she sees her present. We have been really busy lately. This weekend we are going to the lake house for a little R and R. I want to send you a scanned image of the photo. I just want to make perfectly sure that this is a go before I send you the photo and the check. Will an out of state check be a problem? Would you prefer that I use money order? Either is fine with me. Again, I can't thank you enough for taking this job. Contact me soon regarding payment concerns.

Thanks,

Mike

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:20:57 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike - Robert here - Send either a money order or a check - That a good idea about scanning it first but to do the drawing I will need the orginal to work from

Robert

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> | Subject:Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen"

Hi Robert.

Here is the picture. First, let me assure you that we are not in the Ku Klux Klan. One hundred and forty years ago the KKK was formed. The group was initially created to combat Yankee aggression following the Civil War. Southern men and women didn't wish to embrace the culture of Northerners. The Klan was, for a time, a thing of heritage and not hate. It was a club for those who wished to preserve their southern culture and defend it against those of the foreign north who occupied Dixie. Six years after its founding the Klan was split into two camps. One, being the southern historical society, whose goal was the preservation of Confederate values and customs. The other, is the cross burning, hate group that is more commonly known to the public. I am the Grand Imperial Warlock of the Northport, Alabama chapter of the Jefferson Davis Social Club. We do dress in the same kind of attire as the more infamous Klan, but I assure you that we are not members of that branch. We are actually comparable to the Rotary Club. Just wanted to clear that up.

Mike

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 22:10:52 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> || To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike - Robert here - it doesn't matter what you belive in to me I am not here to judge - money is money - I can't afford to turn down any
work - I belive the problems between our races can be solved with the proper education but before that happen I belive there will be a race war as predicted by Edgar Casy and it I am sorry to say will be within our life time - although I don't plan to take part in it

Robert

(HOLY SHIT! WHO IS THIS GUY? TIME TO UNLOAD)

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard"<michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> || Subject:Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Robert,

I feel exactly the same way. Sorry about the front before. I am dealing with legal troubles from liberal leftists who insist on attempting to destroy the Aryan Imperial Force. We the fallen Angelic beings who struggle to separate darkness from light must strike back in all directions. I feel we must strike our enemies at home and abroad and reclaim our throne as masters of the lesser races. My wife and I are proud to be of pure Aryan blood and we are teaching our children to be proud of their heritage. I do hope that at the end of the race war that some of the beings of the lesser races are spared to entertain and intrigue us. I do enjoy the Bernie Mac show very much. And I cannot imagine a world without Kobe Bryant. Save them, the masses should be shipped away to far away lands. Ireland is often mentioned at our meetings as a good place for non-Aryans. The Irish don't exemplify true Aryan blood and spirit. If you would like to know more about the struggle, please let me know and I would be glad to answer any questions you have. Regarding the picture, I hope you can open it this time. If not, you will have to wait until I mail it to you. I am curious...are you of Aryan descent?

Hope to hear from you soon.

Mike

Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 08:54:55 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> |To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike - Robert here - I don't need to know anymore - like I said your belife are you own and I am not to judge - I am of german decent

Robert

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 10:39:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> |Subject: Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

A true descendant of the Fatherland! Many of my colleagues are from Germany. You could surely be a part of the movement. The usual tests and lineage research would have to take place, but I am sure you would do fine. We are in great need of an artist to help with our information pamphlets. My friend and Aryan brother Lars was killed in a meth lab explosion a couple of weeks ago. He did everything from sculpting to website management for the Aryan Force. If you would be interested in working for us please let me know. I will make all of the arrangements with The Imperial Grand Dragon. Excited in your interest in the movement.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Mike

Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 22:02:31 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelock1@yahoo.com

Hi Mike - Robert here - I think you miss understood me - I don't think along the same lines that you do - I do not wish for the coming war - I hope there's another way but if there isn't I will not take place in it - I don't belive in killing anyone - I will only kill, if I or my love ones are phyiscaly attacked no matter what race it is - yes there is a lot of trash out there but there trash in every race even our own - I know a lot of blacks who are good people and I feel sorry for them if this war happens - I do not belive the work of the KKK is the work of God

I am still willing to do the work but please stop trying to get me to join - I have no wish to join I belive in GOD but I do not belive in religon - I belive that religon has fuck up this world and soon after armagetton happen in the middle east there will be a new outlook on God and away from religon I belive man has misintreped so many things in the bible - I look at everything the bible saids with a carefull eye I belive that man has been around a lot more than 6,000 year like the bible saids - I am a man of science and don't belive in miracals - I don't belive that God would set down all the laws of nature and the cosmos and just break them to prove a point - I belive he would work within them - and if you have done as much research as I have you would realise that so many things in the bible cound not have happen - so those thing must mean something else - so you can't take the bible too literly

Take when Exlekial( I have probaly spelt that wrong ) had seen God - Nasa has taken the discription of what god travel in and recreated a model and it was a very good vecial for taking off and rentering the earth skies from outer space but God wouldn't need that - he could just pop in

Take Moses and the 10 commandments - the ten commandments are base on Hamarame code which was already 4,000 years old and were the laws of the sumaerins in Etheopein which was a black race - plus Moses had 40 days to carve them out of stone - if God created the Ten Commanment, Moses would have came back down the same day

Take the part about men and women dressing in the others sex clothes - When the men at that time would cheat of there wives they would dress as women so they wouldn't be reconise when going in to the the homes of the women they were cheating with - now for women wearing mens colthing had to do with the temple and war - women were not allowed in temple and not to fight in war
I hope I can still do the portrait for you - like I said in an earlyer letter, I do not judge people I leave that to GOD

Robert

Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 00:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com> |Subject: Re: artist for hire To: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net>

Hi Robert.

This weekend has truly changed my life. Shortly after reading your e-mail my wife revealed to me that she is carrying the child of a man she has been having an affair with. The man is an Irish bartender named O'Leary. This life altering blow, along with your letter, has forced me to re-examine the way I look at the world. You are right! How could I forsake God's word for my hate-based religion? I am learning that life is simply a test. God is testing us all. I would like to thank you for your honesty. I would like to thank you for taking the time to speak from your heart. Your e-mail to me has actually set into motion a series of life changing events. I am going to leave the Ku Klux Klan. I am sending in my letter of resignation on Tuesday. Now that my wife and I are going to terminate our marriage I won't be needing your services for our anniversary. Thank you for broadening my horizons and helping me see the true evil that gives rise to racism. I now hope to pursue my boyhood dream of becoming a poet. I do not blame my wife, nor the Irishman who stole her from me. I blame only myself. But, I have turned over a new leaf and I promise to do what is truly right for all races of man. I leave you with a poem I wrote last night....

THE NIGHT SHATTERS DAY, THE CLOUD SWALLOWS SKY
THE TIMES ARE A CHANGING, I THINK I CAN FLY
THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS, THE LEAVES IN THE TREES
MY WIFE AND THAT MICK, HAVE GONE TO THE KEYS

I apologize for not being able to hire you. I do thank you for the patience and wisdom you have shown in this dialogue. Good luck and be well.

Mike

Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:37:32 -0400 Subject: Re: artist for hire From: "Robert Hagen" <Rohagen@xxxx.net> To: "Michael Ockisard" <michaelxxxx@yahoo.com>

Hi Mike - Robert here - I realy hope that this is not another front you are putting up - it mean more to me that may-be your eyes are opening up, than the money ever will - Just think if GOD is pure love than how can he condone hatered - so much that we learn from our minister, priest, ect ect is slanted to prove there view - they will take a line from the bible which when taken by itself sound like it prove what they are preaching but if you read the lines before and after you see that it take another meaning
Plus you must remember the bible has a lotta good stuff in it but the version of the book you have has been edited so many time and rewritten so many time , with the slant of the person who edited the book

In the 5th century AD the ruler of the know world, Constantine had married a proatuite And had sent his armys out to capture all of the monestary were the book of the bible was being copied and had his men kill all of the monks and his own men took the place of the monks and started to edited the books of the bible - deleting and adding things - one of the things deleted was all the stuff refering to REINCARATION - this was because his wife was scare of what might happen to her in her next life - this is a major thing, all of the other religon of the world talk about reincaration - they did miss the biggest act of reincaration , that is of Jesus coming back - Because if there is no miracals which I belive than GOD must come back as a human thur the normal route (Being born) and that is an act of reincaration
This was the first time the book of the bible were put togeter as the bible we know today - many books were left out
Edgar Casy who predicted the coming war has a 100% record of being right - the only stuff that haven't come true is the stuff that will happen in the future

Casy predicted that a chamber would be found 20ty feet from the foot of the Sphinx and in it would be found proof of Atalantis - the unedited book of the bible along with the books not found in our bible and not even know of, plus many more things - the chamber was founded about 7 years ago and the digging procedes - they have already dug out the first chamber a shaft going down 100 ft with many shaft going off it like the spoke of a wheel they belive from the writting they have decipher that the shafts go on for miles in all direction
Casy predicted in 1900 - the year, month and the school the lazar would be invented - 45 years before it was invented - His book change my life - you can find them in any good book store

AT the point in my life when I found the Edgar Casy books, I no longer belived in GOD - Casy brough me back to GOD but not to religon
The Edgar Casy reading cover a wide range of subject - Casy was called America greasted profit - read his books it may help you thur these time and if you wish to write me about anything feel free

Just remember that all that we are taugh, are taugh to us by people with their own slant on things so teach yourself and don't lie to yourself and don't belive in just one source of information not even Edgar Casy although I haven't been able to prove him wrong yet, veritfy it with other sources other religion to fine out what is real and the most importance thing use common sense - look into yourself into the Godself that is still in you and listen and try to put yourself in the person you hate shoes and think how your action effect him and yourself

I belive we are in school when we are on this plane of exsitance we either graduate or are put back with each life acording with our action on this plane of exsitance - we come from God who is pure energy - pure love - if we come from God than we must be made of energy (our soul) than this shell our bodies is just a vhecial to travel around on this world - look at it this way, your car is your body and you who are driving are the soul - so if we who are driving are from God than we are the soul not the bodies (car) and each time we come back to this plane we take a new bodie (car) to drive around in - so that means that we are killing each over the make of the car (bodies) we drive - how stupid is that

By for now and I realy hope you weren't putting up another front.

Robert

HUH??

I TOLD YOU THIS ONE GOT NUTTY. MEETING GUYS LIKE ROBERT ONLINE REMINDS ME WHY I NEVER LEAVE MY BASEMENT. IT'S NOT SAFE OUT THERE -- PLUS I WOULD HAVE TO -- YOU KNOW, PUT ON CLOTHES AND TALK TO PEOPLE AND GET A JOB.

NOPE, THE COMFY BEAN BAG CHAIR COVERED WITH BONG RESIN SUITS ME JUST FINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PEACE OUT,

SHIZZY